Highlights of the twitter chat with Steve Thompson chairman of BIM4M2 – BIM for Manufacturers and Manufacturing
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Road test the new tool from BIM4M2: Is BIM Right for Me? #BIM4M2chat https://t.co/3lmciyGg8D
— CompetitiveAdvantage (@CompetitiveA) February 3, 2015
Are you about for #BIM4M2chat tomorrow? Starts at noon with @BIM4M2 and @SGThompsonBIM http://t.co/Ov87JdUIHI
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) February 2, 2015
Looking forward to @BIM4M2 #BIM4M2chat at noon today, hoping for some great discussion
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
40% of manufacturers surveyed have invested in #BIM, 50% plan to in 2015 #BIM4M2chat http://t.co/H9Hh8eYlLz pic.twitter.com/5yz5qXj0D7
— BIM 4 Manufacturers (@BIM4M2) February 3, 2015
Hi Steve @SGThompsonBIM Thank you for joining us. Q1 Would you like to start off by telling us a bit about yourself… #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A1b@BarbourNews cont… I've been Chair of @BIM4M2 since the group's launch in April 2014 #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Thanks Steve! @SGThompsonBIM Q2 Can you tell us more about @BIM4M2 & how the group supports building product manufacturers? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A2a We’re the BIM4 Community representing product manufacturers, providing a voice & working with the BIM Task Group cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A2b cont. to clear a path through the BIM fog, developing educational tools & data templates & highlighting growth opportunities #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Hi #BIM4M2chat As a manufacturer I'm keen to know: are BIM objects a short term fix & in a few yrs it will all be about structured data?
— Chris Witte (@Chrisjwitte) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @Chrisjwitte Structured data priority for manufacturer to provide.
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Q3 @SGThompsonBIM You recently surveyed product manufacturers about BIM – did any of the results surprise you? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A3a Some will be surprised by appetite of manufacturers to get involved (40% already provide content, 90% by end 2015) cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A3b cont…but also number that export, meaning we need solutions based on open standards to work internationally, not just for UK #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
I'm curious to hear from @SGThompsonBIM top 3 things manufacturers could do today and in future to be more effective in BIM? #BIM4M2chat
— Robert Boland (@robert_boland) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat Hi @robert_boland, the first thing is to structure data in a format that is easy to exchange. The second is to ask cont…
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat robert_boland cont… your customers what they need, third is to understand how the use of digital information can benefit you
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Thanks @SGThompsonBIM A big challenge here is the wide range of differing needs resulting in a tough prioritisation of resource #BIM4M2chat
— Robert Boland (@robert_boland) February 3, 2015
Read all the reasons why product manufacturers have decided to adopt #BIM here: http://t.co/OhZ3a9VjkS #BIM4M2chat pic.twitter.com/zCUlkZNX4x
— BIM 4 Manufacturers (@BIM4M2) February 3, 2015
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/562586358527836160
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/562586446687907840
Hi @BIMcrunch, it depends on the type of product they manufacture, but we are developing a tool that helps manufacturers #BIM4M2chat cont…
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @BIMcrunch understand the impact on their business based on product type and sectors that they operate in
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @SGThompsonBIM My question is… are there some cases where a manufacturer doesn't need to bother e.g. basic finishes… cont…
— Building Centre Product Finder (@BCProductFinder) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @SGThompsonBIM cont… Is there demand for BIM on such basic, simple elements such as flooring/paints etc.?
— Building Centre Product Finder (@BCProductFinder) February 3, 2015
Hi @specifinder, Yes there is a need for BIM on products that are maintained during an asset's lifecycle, including flooring #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
.@SGThompsonBIM #BIM4M2chat Have you found the #BuildingServices #PDTs useful for manufacturers? http://t.co/R74f0LJ8cC
— Stewart Gilmour (@JSG2050) February 3, 2015
Hi @JSG2050, I am part of the PDT Steering Group, and the concept is great. We are opening it out to all products #BIM4M2chat cont…
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @JSG2050 and providing clear mapping to open standards. That is essential, especially for international use
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
@BarbourNews @SGThompsonBIM we look forward to seeing the relevant data templates being produced… Any ETA? #BIM4M2chat
— The Guttercrest Group (@Guttercrest) February 3, 2015
Hi @Guttercrest, @BarbourNews all work in progress, main focus at present is the mapping, but hopefully in the next few months #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
@SGThompsonBIM @specifinder I suspect there is probably more need for 2D data sheets than 3D model objects #BIM4M2chat
— Duncan Reed (@djhreed67) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @djhreed67 @specifinder agree Duncan, certainly data first
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
@specifinder @SGThompsonBIM that's where many started but hopefully the market is getting more mature on the value of #data #BIM4M2chat
— Duncan Reed (@djhreed67) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @specifinder @djhreed67 , there is still a need for 3D models, and so it's easy to get swept into delivering more than is reqd
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Q4 @SGThompsonBIM What do you think is the biggest barrier for product manufacturers adopting BIM? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
Hi @BarbourNews A4a The perceived expense and resources required, plus understanding what is required! cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A4b cont… Confusion by those asking and those providing data, so still a way to go in terms of education and support #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Some very interesting points being raised in #BIM4M2chat
— @EOS_Framing (@EOS_Framing) February 3, 2015
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/562589393744314368
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/562589596589228032
#BIM4M2chat BIMcrunch @BarbourNews It depends on application, so in infrastructure Bentley is preferred, and in cont. ..
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat BIMcrunch @BarbourNews structural applications it's Tekla. It doesn't really matter too much if the data is structured correctl
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @fairsnape @SGThompsonBIM what do you think is the best way for us to get the message out there?
— Construction (@TataSteelConstr) February 3, 2015
Q5 @SGThompsonBIM What is the first piece of advice you would give to product manufacturers starting their BIM journey? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A5a BIM doesn’t come off the shelf, there's no one-size-fits-all solution. Information is key, focus on structuring data cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A5b cont…Ask customers what they need and in what format, don’t rush out and spend significant sums of money without first cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A5c cont..understanding what you need.The data can be as simple as an excel spreadsheet to meet requirements of Level 2 for 2016 #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
@SGThompsonBIM format needs to be open & ideally boot-strapped so less data maintenance needed over lifecycle of asset #BIM4M2chat
— Duncan Reed (@djhreed67) February 3, 2015
Hi @fairsnape there are developing evidence-based assessment methods, and that rigour and common approach is needed to convince #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Interesting to see ‘Marketing’ as the most popular function involved in the decision to invest in BIM ahead of Tech: https://t.co/wD90x801ff
— Pritesh Patel (@priteshpatel9) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @priteshpatel9 I guess it depends on the organisation but it doesn't surprise me as marketing should be the strategists
— Joanne Ingham (@joingham) February 3, 2015
@Chrisjwitte @joingham @priteshpatel9 Totally agree with you Jo… where else would decision to invest come from? #BIM4M2chat
— Building Centre Product Finder (@BCProductFinder) February 3, 2015
Q6 @SGThompsonBIM What is the difference between BIM Objects & Product Data Templates (PDTs), is one preferred? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A6a An object isn’t necessarily 3D geometric model, it’s a representation of geometrical and/or non-geometrical data cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A6b cont Structured data priority for manufacturer to provide. PDTs enable user to select data for use & combine with 3D cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
@BarbourNews A6c however geometry is still crucial but balance between geometry and additional data varies between product types #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/562592524993568768
Hi @BIMcrunch, definitely structuring data internally makes sense, working with @BIM4M2 to understand common data requirements #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Only 10 mins left if you want to pose a question on BIM to @SGThompsonBIM – use #BIM4M2chat to join the conversation
— Construction (@TataSteelConstr) February 3, 2015
Q7 @SGThompsonBIM Why isn't there a consensus on what specifiers and contractors want? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A7a Everyone has different qu's to be answered & info required to support their activities, sector & regional variations cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A7b cont… However, IFC provides a common framework that we should be working with to maximise consistency and cross-over cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A7c @BarbourNews cont…also important to realise information flow needs to be 2-way to realise full potential of the BIM process #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
.@SGThompsonBIM #BIM4M2chat Any evidence of developing collaboration #BIM between architects, engineers, contractors, manufacturers, FMs
— Stewart Gilmour (@JSG2050) February 3, 2015
Yes @JSG2050, in developing common data approaches & capability assessments. More needed to maximise value that BIM can offer #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @JSG2050 @SGThompsonBIM @ACOwater ever increasing requests for us to engage #BIM
— Gary Morton (@gary_morton65) February 3, 2015
If you're interested in collaborative #BIM why not find out about Build Newcastle Live with @BIM4SME http://t.co/Dwvc7LImep #BIM4M2chat
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) February 3, 2015
Q8 @SGThompsonBIM Can you tell us more about the new tools BIM4M2 is developing? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A8a ‘Is BIM Right for Me’ provides evidence-based guidance on needs to respond to the BIM challenge and potential impact cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat @SGThompsonBIM Sounds like an excellent tool.
— Gary Morton (@gary_morton65) February 3, 2015
A8b cont… ‘Learn More’ sifts through the ‘BIMfobesity’ to identify most relevant guidance out there based on your needs cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A8c cont… third tool provides an outline BIM implementation plan including business planning, implementation & review processes #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Thanks Steve! Q9 @SGThompsonBIM What will happen after April 2016? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
Hi @BarbourNews A9a All centrally procured public sector projects will require Level 2 BIM maturity cont… #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
A9b cont… 2016 is only the beginning. Whilst a big change, it only gets us to basecamp in terms of where we need to be in future #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat Pete Quenault. BIM Manager – Assa Abloy EMEA. Listening in & reading some interesting tweets.
— Peter Quenault (@Q_boid) February 3, 2015
RT @specifinder: #BIM4M2chat @SGThompsonBIM We're often asked about the "quality" of BIM objects, what's the best measure of "quality"?
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat Hi @specifinder, whether they are being used (not just downloaded) is a good sign, but also validating in open software
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
And finally, Q10 @SGThompsonBIM how can product manufacturers learn more about responding to the BIM challenge? #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
A10 contact @BIM4M2, sign up to our newsletter or join us. We have a broad range of skills & experience & are here to help #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Sign up for the @BIM4M2 newsletter using the box on any page of our website: http://t.co/YEttMlFDnR
— BIM 4 Manufacturers (@BIM4M2) February 3, 2015
Thank you so much Steve @SGThompsonBIM for joining us today – it's been a fantastic chat! #BIM4M2chat
— Barbour Product Search (@BarbourNews) February 3, 2015
If you've not been able to join #BIM4M2chat & want to find out more about @BIM4M2 join the #BIM panel debate on 4th March at #ecobuild
— Construction (@TataSteelConstr) February 3, 2015
Thank you @BarbourNews, any more questions please let us know. I'm now going for a cuppa! #BIM4M2chat
— Steve Thompson (@SGThompsonBIM) February 3, 2015
Agreed thx to @BarbourNews @SGThompsonBIM @BIM4M2 for a great Q&A #BIM4M2chat
— Duncan Reed (@djhreed67) February 3, 2015
#BIM4M2chat with @SGThompsonBIM has been thoroughly informative from a non-manufacturing perspective. Interesting range on contributors.
— WA Landscape (@WALandscape) February 3, 2015
Road test the new tool from BIM4M2: Is BIM Right for Me? #BIM4M2chat https://t.co/3lmciyGg8D
— CompetitiveAdvantage (@CompetitiveA) February 3, 2015
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