International discussion on IP and Copyright Issues for Architects and their Clients, held on twitter through the @ArchitectLeague account
Ammar Mousali is a builder based in Queensland, Australia.
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/186732076136005632
Here’s his website:
http://www.rainbowbuilders.com.au/
I took a look at the ArchitectMap to see which architects were in the area and would perhaps be willing to discuss:
– @mousali have a word with @alistereden @steveRosearc they are in your area – but copyright usually resides with the designer
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 3, 2012
In a short while construction professionals from across the world (including the UK, Belgium, US, Venezuela, Dubai and Northern Ireland) were discussing the matter.
http://twitter.com/RedStateLib/status/187044240868638720
@ArchitectLeague @mousali you are paying for the right to use a design not to resell it.
— Area Virtual 3D C.A. (@Areavirtual3d) April 3, 2012
http://twitter.com/Leon_Smith_/status/187087764846686208
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/187142990798651393
Would be interested to hear from IP experts about the ownership of design copyright (discussion with @mousali @alistereden @steveroseArc
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 3, 2012
@ArchitectLeague @mousali @alistereden My view is Design IP depends on contract terms. If silent it stays with designer for licensed use.
— Nick Schumann (@NickSchumann) April 3, 2012
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/187299469291814912
And the IP copyright discussion continues…
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 5, 2012
http://twitter.com/clearmapping/status/187450838569070593
http://twitter.com/MathewByron/status/187451712716541953
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/187513338857652224
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/187515040713277440
http://twitter.com/mousali/status/187516259473166337
@ArchitectLeague @mousali @nickschumann @alistereden @MathewByron: In Belgium the architect keeps the "intellectual" rights on his design.
— Vincent Van Den Broecke (@bouwspiegel) April 5, 2012
. @mousali @nickschumann @alistereden @MathewByron I imagine across the globe situations are different… #ArchitectMap #IP
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 5, 2012
Over on @ArchitectLeague we've been having a 3-day discussion about copyright and IP for architects and their clients…
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) April 5, 2012
@ArchitectLeague @mousali @alistereden @mathewbyron very interesting. A veritable minefield.
— Nick Schumann (@NickSchumann) April 5, 2012
@blancoarchitect @architectleague @mousali @alistereden @mathewbyron can the contract change that? Try working for a client like Aramco
— Nick Schumann (@NickSchumann) April 5, 2012
http://twitter.com/blancoarchitect/status/187996531431968769
@blancoarchitect @architectleague I agree it doesn't have to but I have had to deal with so many clients who think otherwise
— Nick Schumann (@NickSchumann) April 5, 2012
@NickSchumann @architectleague: Here in Belgium it's legally organised. Even when clients thinks otherwise, the fact remains. #jobprotection
— Vincent Van Den Broecke (@bouwspiegel) April 5, 2012
@blancoarchitect @architectleague Belgium seems to have got it right. A lesson for elsewhere perhaps
— Nick Schumann (@NickSchumann) April 6, 2012
@NickSchumann @blancoarchitect @mousali maybe @barkarchitects @dimondarchitect and @BJArch would discuss – they are in Queensland #IP
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 6, 2012
New Blog Post: Copyright and IP issues for Architecture – whats your view? http://t.co/gcBXbe94
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) April 6, 2012
http://twitter.com/Leon_Smith_/status/188225813106270209
@subutcher I ignore RIBA terms. My appointments state that I own the design, if architect doesn't agree they simply don't work for me
— Tony Carroll 🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@tonycarroll) April 10, 2012
@tonycarroll That's not uncommon in my experience. There's no point in T&Cs that are not considered reasonable by both parties!
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) April 10, 2012
@subutcher Architecture has always been an odd fish with this stuff, a pretence at elitism yet continually self-destructing commercially
— Tony Carroll 🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@tonycarroll) April 10, 2012
@subutcher Architect shld retain copyright. What if client takes a model house design & uses on other sites? cc @stormyjoolz @tonycarroll
— HAT Projects (@hatprojects) April 10, 2012
@stormyjoolz I do both but I know what to expect, & can spot a bad architect in double quick time, sadly there are a lot of them @SuButcher
— Tony Carroll 🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@tonycarroll) April 10, 2012
@hatprojects that's never happened to us, make sure the client sticks with your biz! @subutcher @tonycarroll
— Julie Tempest (@stormyjoolz) April 10, 2012
🙂 you're now on my list for the NW. RT @stormyjoolz: @tonycarroll when do we start then? http://t.co/yBz3gje1 @BlueBarnacles @SuButcher
— Tony Carroll 🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@tonycarroll) April 10, 2012
@SuButcher I would avoid assigning copyright to client as far as possible! I would not work on a private house if i didn't own copyright.
— Strom Architects 🇪🇺🇬🇧 🇸🇪 🇪🇸 🇺🇸 🇳🇿 (@stromarchitects) April 10, 2012
@hatprojects @subutcher @stormyjoolz @tonycarroll you mean like this bastardisation of @AHMMArchitects school http://t.co/htrfwYG7?
— Strom Architects 🇪🇺🇬🇧 🇸🇪 🇪🇸 🇺🇸 🇳🇿 (@stromarchitects) April 10, 2012
@stromarchitects from the headline (don't subscribe), that's a different issue @hatprojects @subutcher @tonycarroll @AHMMArchitects
— Julie Tempest (@stormyjoolz) April 10, 2012
@hatprojects @subutcher @stormyjoolz @tonycarroll agree with this. Client owns license to use design, architect owns design.
— Elrond Burrell (he/him) (@ElrondBurrell) April 10, 2012
@ElrondBurrell @hatprojects @stormyjoolz yes but @tonycarroll has issue with it and he's not alone
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) April 10, 2012
@SuButcher why? Our reputation and design is what we live and die by as architects.
— Strom Architects 🇪🇺🇬🇧 🇸🇪 🇪🇸 🇺🇸 🇳🇿 (@stromarchitects) April 10, 2012
@ElrondBurrell @subutcher @stormyjoolz @tonycarroll Don't think RIBA is 'undermining' to advise we work like every other design professional
— HAT Projects (@hatprojects) April 10, 2012
Yes but how to resolve issue…? RT @stromarchitects: @SuButcher why? Our reputation and design is what we live and die by as architects.
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) April 10, 2012
@subutcher @stromarchitects But how does your reputation and design ability relate to retaining copyright?
— Tony Carroll 🇺🇦🇬🇧 (@tonycarroll) April 10, 2012
http://twitter.com/BuildingContent/status/189767418497867776
Where will the discussion go next?
http://www.architectmap.net
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