This morning I was delighted to join over 80 architects and construction professionals for breakfast on the top of 30 St Mary Axe (aka ‘the Gherkin’) and a debate about innovation and sustainability in construction hosted by EPS insulation innovators Jablite. Here are some of the tweets exchanged.
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From the Invitation:
Please come and join us as our guest for a networking breakfast and meeting at the top of the iconic 30 St Mary Axe building.
Share your experience and ideas about the benefits – and the challenges – of innovative specifying for sustainability.
We have a great panel of speakers, including:
Andrew Mellor – BA (Hons) DipArch DipAP RIBA FRSA – leads PRP Environmental, a multi-skilled sustainability consultancy
Claire Curtis-Thomas – the new Chief Executive of the British Board of Agrément
Ian Meikle – Innovation Platform Leader for Low Impact Buildings, the Technology Strategy Board
Richard Lee – Managing Director of Jablite, manufacturer of innovative insulation systems
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Tomorrow morning I’ll be ‘up the Gherkin’ with @jablite – will you? http://bit.ly/15ByABz
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@SuButcher we are just about ready !!
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Where am I? @jablite http://instagram.com/p/b22Z2OrqzN/ rqzN/
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Walkie Talkie and Shard @ Searcey’s http://instagram.com/p/b24IFFLq0O/ Lq0O/
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@SuButcher What an appallingly ugly building the walkie talkie is turning out to be
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@SuButcher the top of the gherkin is wonderful! Enjoy
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@SuButcher are you on whistle stop tour?
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. @RoddyRobert I’m up the Gherkin with @jablite and around 100 architects talking about innovation in building materials
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“@johnmcrae_orms: @SuButcher the top of the gherkin is wonderful! Enjoy > thanks, it is beautiful up here cc @jablite
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Great idea by @jablite – a guide to the skyline featuring projects using their insulation @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b26Segrq1_/ rq1_/
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At the top @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b24gN_rq0o/ rq0o/
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@SuButcher – a nice shot.
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Cheese grater under construction @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b24uW5Lq03/ Lq03/
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@SuButcher and a cracking view of leadenhall …much nicer than the 20 fenchurch
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Lots of meeting and greeting going on @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b26JVnrq16/ rq16/
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Buildings look very different from above @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b26040Lq2U/ Lq2U/
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No.1 Poultry, St Paul’s and the Thames @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b27Wo3rq2n/ rq2n/
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Final panel member, Ian Meikle – Innovation Platform Leader for Low Impact Buildings, the Technology Strategy Board @meikle567 @innovate_uk
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Thomas Lane (tlanebuilding) on Twitter
The latest from Thomas Lane (@tlanebuilding). Group technical editor, Building & Ecobuild. LondonReplyRetweetFavorite -
PRP Environmental (PRPenv) on Twitter
The latest from PRP Environmental (@PRPenv). The Environmental team at PRP Architects. London, U.K.ReplyRetweetFavorite -
The latest from BBA (@BBAguru). The British Board of Agrément (BBA) – approves, tests and inspects products, systems and installers in th…ReplyRetweetFavorite
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Ian Meikle (meikle567) on Twitter
The latest from Ian Meikle (@meikle567). runs the £10m+ pa Low Impact Buildings programme @innovate_uk #retrofit #LIB201318. oxfordReplyRetweetFavorite -
The latest from Jablite (@jablite). Jablite is a leading supplier of innovative, A+ rated (the highest rating in the BRE Green Guide) ins…ReplyRetweetFavorite
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Thomas Lane introducing the debate pic.twitter.com/U5jHBX04Th04Th -
@tlanebuilding accepts @PRPenv challenge to define innovative/ ‘something that will genuinely interest readers to fill two pages’ @jablite
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Panel at @jablite sustainability and innovation debate @ The Gherkin http://instagram.com/p/b2-6LXrq5A/ rq5A/
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Question from architect at @ScottBrownrigg bring up #BIM – will it drive innovation? @jablite
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Scott Brownrigg (ScottBrownrigg) on Twitter
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“@SuButcher: Interesting issue pointed out by Andrew @PRPenv- some clients see #BIM as too innovative for them @jablite” / FFS:(
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@antonyslumbers I’m not surprised at his point though – ‘what’s in it for me’ @PRPenv @jablite
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@SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite Yes but fed up after decades that prop/construction world so Luddite and lacking in innovation.
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@SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite hence clients need educating re. #BIM
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@antonyslumbers i wonder if there’s more to it than that. intriguing idea. @SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite
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. @tlanebuilding asks audience of 50 ‘are you more likely to specify a product if available as a #BIM ready download? – 2 people raised hand
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@antonyslumbers Agree 100%. #BIM is the opportunity for the industry to innovate and integrate cc @SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite
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@SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite – not a sustainable competitive advantage though. Only short term until everyone has models.
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@SuButcher @PRPenv @jablite interesting watching this discussion from afar.
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. @tlanebuilding brings the debate round to retrofit of commercial buildings @PRPenv says it is a growing area cc @BritishLandCR @jablite
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. @tlanebuilding asks what areas in commercial retrofit where we would like to see innovation? (Comments welcome) @jablite
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Richard Lee @jablite mentioning current product they are working on with @innovate_uk to reduce condensation through internal ventilation
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It is if clients are open to suggestion @SuButcher @jablite, or they drive the design/supply chain to innovate. 1/2
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.@CalibreSimon @jablite that’s working with clients like @BritishLandPLC who are driving innovation in the supply chain
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I think most ppl happy with new ideas @SuButcher @jablite if confident they’ll work; we need to give that confidence… 2/2
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@SuButcher – question for panel? Q. What’s your criteria to determine if a product is ‘innovative’? Such an overused, misunderstood word
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@SuButcher – innovative is level pegging with ‘sustainable’ in my eyes.
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@SuButcher I don’t know – but as soon as you figure it out I’ll be sure to add it to our product info…
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@SuButcher EVC economic value to the customer calculations: basic discounted calcs over product lifetime. Find a procurement person to helpReplyRetweetFavorite
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. @tlanebuilding asks who will champion innovation in the supply chain, and who is hindering it?
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Agreed @SuButcher; @BritishLandPLC trailblazing + brilliant publicity = #sustainability + £wins on several fronts @jablite
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.@SuButcher I see @BritishLandPLC being a client and supply chain member of choice to their clients – top strategy! @jablite
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@SuButcher–with change comes risk–a lot of risk. I don’t trust any building products that haven’t got a 20 year track record, Sue!
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Richard Lee @jablite points out that #greendeal is too broad brush, doesn’t recognise/encourage innovation in products via @SuButcher
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@SuButcher @meikle567 @innovate_uk really? can’t say i’ve found compliance an issue…no innovation needed, just clear, consistent approach
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. @MarkZweig the problem is that we’ll never meet our carbon targets without innovation @jablite
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@SuButcher lifecycle of products
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@SuButcher @jablite @innovate_uk we must talk healthy & transprency in materials – #Declare, @HPDstandard @livingbuilding @livingbldgUK
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@MarkZweig @SuButcher comment from Alex Polizzi on new technology in hotels – an iPad “can’t replace a warm smile and a short skirt”.
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@SuButcher @MarkZweig @jablite make code 6 standard for houses now. cut vat on home refurbs if they meet some sustainable standards. stop
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@SuButcher @MarkZweig @jablite asking for permission for wind farms. make commercial buildings breaam outstanding. change the regs. the
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@SuButcher @MarkZweig @jablite industry will respond. the piecemeal approach we have now is just daft and doesn’t help
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@SuButcher @jablite –true, but when you’re the builder and someone’s plastic water line leaks inside a wall 10 yrs from now it’s your prob!
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Carbon means energy, energy means economy. Ay this pace yes “@SuButcher: Do you think the 2016 zero carbon targets are unachievable?
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> @SuButcher @jablite not actually possible to meet an undefined target! #ZeroCarbonBS
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@SuButcher @jablite implement them now…don’t comply, pay higher 106 contributions. money talks [couldn’t think of a better cliche]
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@SuButcher @PauleyCreative @jablite–Look at probs with plastic plumbing, synthetic stucco, and spray insulation systems over last 20 yrs…
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. @MarkZweig @PauleyCreative @jablite the point of @innovate_uk is to mitigate the risk and reduce the cost of innovation
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. @tlanebuilding wraps up debate – most people are keen to use innovative products if risk can be managed, is our industry up to challenge?
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“@SuButcher: Do you think that regulation drives innovation? ~70-80% agree, 5% disagree” I agree. We don’t change unless forced to do so!
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@SuButcher – really good tweets coming through and a great topic. Hope theres more of these to come @jablite?
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@SuButcher @PauleyCreative @tlanebuilding–as a builder/developer myself–I don’t see how the risk CAN be managed beyond not taking it!
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@MarkZweig @SuButcher cannot believe calls for more regulation. Change should be driven by gains not forced down our throats
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@HotelDesigns @SuButcher–I don’t personally want any more regulation! Just saying (most) people won’t change unless forced to….
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@MarkZweig Weakness is always the human interface
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@MarkZweig @SuButcher people hate change. Adopt or adapt, eventually we all fall in line.
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@phplusmag @SuButcher without doubt, regulation requires extra thinking, and more thought provokes ideas…
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@TimlocBP @SuButcher In Ireland we build to or v close to #passivehouse just to hit compliance with regs. It’s doable, with political will
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“@SuButcher: Do you think the 2016 zero carbon targets are unachievable? 90% of room agree @jablite”
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For majority of builing yes- individuals may innovate without regs @phplusmag @SuButcher: Do you think that regulation drives innovation?
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@ElrondBurrell @BenAdamSmith @SuButcher @jablite Aim for the impossible and you will achieve excellence. That’ll do me! #zcb
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@ElrondBurrell @SuButcher true But High aspirations create high achievements – do imminent regulations impact that ? Even if unclear?
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@jablite @SuButcher not if unclear. Zero carbon is a mess not a high aspiration!
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Yes. “@SuButcher: Do you think that regulation drives innovation? ~70-80% agree, 5% disagree”
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.@fairsnape @SuButcher > far from ‘driving’ innovation, in my experience regulation generally restrains it!
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@jamespargeter @SuButcher absolutely, very concerning that 70-80% suggest they rely on legislation to innovate
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@CalibreSimon @SuButcher product transparency will become a key issue in construction #sustainability
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. @CalibreSimon @SuButcher thought provoking slide re healthy building products … #sustainability pic.twitter.com/jan4aMhqqVhqqV -
@fairsnape @SuButcher the innovators sit firmly in the 5% methinks – construction is so behind the curve…think motor industry 30 years ago
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@PauleyCreative thx to @SuButcher the tweet discussions are so useful – and yes we will do more events like this
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@fairsnape @SuButcher @innovate_uk @HPDstandard @livingbuilding @livingbldgUK agree transparency is vital. Do you refer to BRE green guide?
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@SuButcher @BBAguru almost everyone in meeting today though regs vital – we need to communicate this to Government
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@SuButcher @innovate_uk our Dynamic insulation insulates and ventilates, heats in winter, cools in summer 🙂
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@robinbrittain @SimmondsMills @SuButcher @innovate_uk There is a short video explaining the system here http://www.jablite.co.uk/products/show/jablite-dynamic-external …/show/…
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@robinbrittain @SimmondsMills @SuButcher @innovate_uk re: #toxicity, expanded polystyrene (EPS) is 98% air and is completely inert & stable
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@SimmondsMills in that case you need to talk to our expert @suebjablite we will also be testing our theory with two DECC/TSB funded projects
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@SimmondsMills @suebjablite I should say.. proving the theory!
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