Promat UK will host its fourth free Fire Day at Ascot Racecourse, where construction professionals will be given the opportunity to gather and discuss fire safety and industry related issues. If you can’t attend, join the live blog here.
Promat UK will host its fourth free Fire Day at Ascot Racecourse, where construction professionals will be given the opportunity to gather and discuss fire safety and industry related issues. If you can't attend, join the live blog here.
View the Agenda here:
http://www.promat.co.uk/fireday2014/agenda.aspx
Our Hosts:
http://www.promat.co.uk/
Our venue @AscotInsider #fireday @PromatUK pic.twitter.com/EXQTcNClCn
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Search Twitter for all #Fireday tweets:
http://hawksey.info/tagsexplorer/arc.html?key=tycXZAPYwWP8S7ynv66nSlA&sheet=oaw
Follow along with highlights of the day here as they happen:
Looking forward to @PromatUK #FireDay tomorrow. Go for it colleagues!
— Liesbeth Jacobs (@liesbeth_jacobs) November 11, 2014
09:30-10:00 Registration
Over 150 delegates registered for #Fireday today. They are finishing their coffee and about to join us pic.twitter.com/fWTUVfkP0K
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Wilf Butcher CEO @ASFPUK all ready to go @PromatUK #Fireday @AscotInsider pic.twitter.com/wPM9VCMQhk
— ASFP (@ASFPUK) November 12, 2014
10:00-10:15 Introduction
– John Stevenson, Managing Director, Promat UK Ltd
https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/john-stevenson/1/66b/97
John Stevenson, MD of @PromatUK is introducing the #fireday 'we only do fire' he says.
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Why have #fireday s? , 'Learning comes best from intellectual challenge', says John – and today we're hoping to share some
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
There are around 500 fires a day in England and Wales, says John, with risk to life and property #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
All the presentations today will be available on the website or via the Live blog http://t.co/qyGRLWUWsx #Fireday
— Promat UK (@PromatUK) November 12, 2014
I'm speaking next – back soon #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
10:15-10:45 Social Media & its use in Construction Markets
– Su Butcher, CEO, Just Practising
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/subutcher/
https://drvza2n4g1.wpdns.site
I'm speaking next – back soon #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
At the Promat #fireday. Really interesting talk on social media by @SuButcher
— Emma Bould (@Emma_Bould) November 12, 2014
@SuButcher I wonder how many people in the audience #Fireday current have a social media policy and actively discuss fire protection?
— PFP Surveying & Consulting Ltd (@Jmr21Challenger) November 12, 2014
10:45-11:15 Education & Training in the Passive Fire Protection Sector
– Howard Passey, Commercial Director, Fire Protection Association (FPA)
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/howardpassey
Our next speaker is Howard Passey, of @FPA_Tweets #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
At the Promat #fireday with a great range of topics
— Simon O'Hea (@simon_ohea) November 12, 2014
Who is responsible for fire safety? #Fireday http://t.co/x1AJfYL2WQ pic.twitter.com/ZEqvYObFys
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Why is training and education so important in #passive #fire industry Howard Passey explaining at @PromatUK #Fireday pic.twitter.com/WanDnYGVXn
— ASFP (@ASFPUK) November 12, 2014
Howard tells a story of a pub/hotel owner who doctored a Fire Risk Assessment he'd downloaded from the internet… 8m in prison #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
RT @seeyouatthebar: @SuButcher I prosecute for Manchester fire authority and so many people confused about who the responsible person is!
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
RT @seeyouatthebar: courts taking it v seriously- custodial sentences handed out as well as big fines even for small time landlords #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'You can't use everything everywhere' says Howard 'can't just read what it says on the tin' – make sure the installer is competent #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'Guidance is available, but its only part of the competency puzzle' says Howard @FPA_Tweets pic.twitter.com/wL2UF1FdoR
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Are you unconsciously incompetent? #Fireday pic.twitter.com/OMQQsLiHJ0
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
The @ASFPUK is developing an independent training scheme for passive fire protection: #fireday pic.twitter.com/WeLdyT6A4c
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
#Fireday ASFP – Association for Specialist Fire Protection website: http://t.co/lNkHUDuzJK talk to them at @ASFPUK
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
You can now book yourself on the @AFPUK Passive Fire Protection training – see here for info: http://t.co/5Awiv7mI0E #FIreday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
11:15-11:30 Coffee break
https://twitter.com/dbampton/status/532498013542154240
https://twitter.com/clmfire/status/532497026379161600
Enjoying @PromatUK #fireday Just been speaking about competency and the @ASFPUK training initiative
— Howard Passey (@HowardPassey) November 12, 2014
Settling in at the beautiful @AscotInsider for the @PromatUK #FireDay with @ASFPUK @FPA_tweets @FPA_fire_risk @SuButcher #competence!
— Avesta (@AvestaFSM) November 12, 2014
https://twitter.com/clmfire/status/532497026379161600
11:30-12:00 Promat White Paper on Steel Protection
– Ian Cowley, Business Development Director, Promat UK Ltd
https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/ian-cowley/19/4a7/2b3
Our next speaker is Ian Cowley of @PromatUK – on their White Paper on Steel Protection #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'We've been getting increasing enquiries about the repair of intumescent paint, and decided to find out why' says Ian @PromatUK #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Ian now setting out the debate on Concrete v Steel frame #Fireday both industries give the same reasons and steel quotes 'fire performance'
— Promat UK (@PromatUK) November 12, 2014
The steel industry says 'they understand fire' but give a rationale for choosing steel as 'fire performance' says Ian #Fireday
— Promat UK (@PromatUK) November 12, 2014
Overview of the UK frame market – Steel over 70% of the market #Fireday pic.twitter.com/J7EEru3I9x
— Promat UK (@PromatUK) November 12, 2014
The @PromatUK research asked architects what were the differences between the three types of fireprotection #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'For 30 or 60 minutes, architects routinely specify board fire protection' says Ian, 'but that doesn't reflect market share' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
"56% of architects believe that they are the biggest influence on fire protection" and believe contractors have just 10% influence #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
.@SuButcher What about building control? Had the most say in my small carport build this year… not Architect or contractor #fireday
— Nick Pauley (@Nick_Pauley) November 12, 2014
. @Nick_Pauley there's clearly a disconnect between what architects think is happening with FP and what is actually happening #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
What is important to architects specifying fire protection? They want proof, says Ian Cowley, but we get asked for few certificates #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Only 24% of architects considered weather as an important factor on the fire protection of structural steel, says Ian #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
What do architects perceive as the limitations to specifying intumescent paint fire protection? #fireday pic.twitter.com/aSts4fOFU3
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Weather can damage intumescent fire protection paint – damage by water ingress: #fireday http://t.co/AmMdj5GlDh pic.twitter.com/iYT1qtb6vx
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Download White Paper 'Making the Right Choice' learn about passive fire protection: http://t.co/ja1tevEpNv #fireday pic.twitter.com/fqy2QodvXI
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Link to download the White Paper:
http://www.promat.co.uk/steel-fire-protection/default.aspx
12:00-12:30 CE Marking & EN Testing – When will it become mandatory for fire protection products?
– Niall Rowan, Technical Officer, Association of Specialist Fire Protection (ASFP)
https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/niall-rowan/34/2a2/7a5
Our final speaker at #Fireday this morning is Niall Rowan of @ASFPUK – CE Marking and EN Testing for Fire Protection http://t.co/NFM3LfMml9
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Link to @ASFPUK Documents including the guide to the Construction Product Regulations: http://t.co/CVrqWHBcFl #Fireday
— UK Construction (@UKConstruction) November 12, 2014
'Each member state in Europe is currently responsible for their own fire regulations' says Naill #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Naill points out the difference between a product standard 'chairs must be this strong' to a test standard 'how you break a chair' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Niall Rowan ASFP explains when CE marking will become mandatory for #passive #fire #protection @PromatUK #fireday pic.twitter.com/pZ9tf4JBK9
— ASFP (@ASFPUK) November 12, 2014
… but no-one's heard of regulation 38
Regulation 38 says if you install a Fire Protection system you must pass on information to the building owner says Niall #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
https://twitter.com/BaldrickWhite/status/532509873834328064
There are harmonised European standard (hENs) and Guidelines for European Technical Approvals (ETAGs) oh my! #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Here's the @CPA_tweets guidance note on the Construction Products Regulation: http://t.co/UpJ2jUjMhl #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
CPR came into force in June 2-13 and is mandatory if your product is covered by a hEN #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
@NiallRowan of @ASFPUK helps @PromatUK #fireday attendees make sense of CE Marking and EN testing. TLAs galore! pic.twitter.com/fZbVjVSCla
— Howard Passey (@HowardPassey) November 12, 2014
Currently some products only require voluntary CE marking but @ASFPUK working with European counterpart to make them all mandatory #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Thx+MT @SuButcher: but here's the updated @CPA_tweets guidance note on the Construction Products Regulation: http://t.co/qomeTwR3uZ #fireday
— Construction Products Association (@CPA_Tweets) November 12, 2014
Find out – is your product covered by a hEN or a European Assessment Document (EAD)? that's the first step says Niall Rowan #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Choose a good notified test/certification body – members of EGOLF are ideal says Niall http://t.co/oYJ54pgSfh #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
12:30-12:45 Questions
Panel question session @PromatUK #Fireday pic.twitter.com/9t6M489IBh
— ASFP (@ASFPUK) November 12, 2014
John Stevenson qu on controlling Twitter. No control! Need to respond sensibly instead. QV triage #fireday
— Simon O'Hea (@simon_ohea) November 12, 2014
How to Put Together a Social Media Triage Response Plan | EDUniverse #fireday http://t.co/jwsLpxAcLo
— Simon O'Hea (@simon_ohea) November 12, 2014
#fireday Reg 38 we are never asked by clients or contractors in respect of this despite it being in the spec!
— Kevin Hulin (@SYDNEY221103) November 12, 2014
12:45-13:45 Lunch
Amazing view from the grandstand @AscotInsider #fireday pic.twitter.com/eOlSpwfqW1
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
The #fireday raffle is fundraising for @CR_UK today, get your tickets now!
— Promat UK (@PromatUK) November 12, 2014
https://twitter.com/clmfire/status/532536643006509056
13:45-14:15 BIM – The interaction between the specifier & the passive fire protection community
– Peter Caplehorn, Policy Director & Deputy Chief Executive, Construction Products Association
(CPA)
http://www.constructionproducts.org.uk/news/press-releases/display/view/association-appoints-peter-caplehorn-as-policy-director-and/
The challenge #BIM holds for us is we must work collaboratively, says Peter, addressing projects in 'a sensible joined up way'. #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
After setting the context, Peter is going to focus on how product companies interact with the project team #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
#BIM has won the efficiency argument with key clients who are very much engaged says Peter Capelhorn of @CPA_Tweets #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
“@SuButcher: Don't assume you have to make a huge investment to participate in #BIM says Peter – its about data not hardware #Fireday” Word!
— Tom Oulton (@itsBIMupNorth) November 12, 2014
'The current construction industry draws everything 2.5 times and builds everything 1.5 times' #BIM #Fireday pic.twitter.com/U6y9KlDNVB
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'…Building our learning outcomes into the next iteration… wouldn't that be a good think for construction?' #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Many built examples of #BIM in action succeeding – Peter Capelhorn namechecks @LeadenhallBding and @Laing_ORourke #Fireday @CPA_Tweets
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Key documents for #BIM from Peter Capelhorn at the @PromatUK #Fireday pic.twitter.com/SDGosV9A44
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
https://twitter.com/BaldrickWhite/status/532538663713120258
https://twitter.com/SimonoatColt/status/532539725077553152
'We're ~18 months out from Level 2 #BIM' says Peter, 'and we have to focus on how we get there and our place in the change process' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
The new @RIBA Plan of Work is an essential element in understanding how #BIM works #Fireday @RIBA_PoW
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'Instead of factoring in risk and having to change data, contractors can go ahead with a larger degree of confidence' #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
COBie – 'ensuring every part of all the data is set out in a uniformly structured way across the whole project' #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
What is COBie? #BIM #Fireday #COBie pic.twitter.com/iS3keHT9RL
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter Capelhorn echoing my mention of Augmented Reality and #BIM from this morning 'use an ipad to look through a ceiling' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter giving a shoutout for the BIM4 interest groups – mentions @BIM4Housing @BIM4Fitout @BIM4M2 @BIM4SME #Fireday pic.twitter.com/WWNSNNXWJm
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
So what is Level 3 #BIM? Peter mentions #IOT The Internet of Things 'the light bulb tells you it needs changing' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter mentions that all the resources he's mentioned are on the @BIMgcs BIM Task Group website: http://t.co/2G1wRPQEfq #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
http://www.bimtaskgroup.org/
14:15-14:45 Fire rated glass and it's use in architectural design
– David Cooper, International Fire Consultants (IFC Group)
http://www.ifcgroup.com/
After 3 minutes of a fire test temperatures reach 500 degrees C… pic.twitter.com/r230D6HjoU
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
The intumescent filling in the glass expands and protects people on the other side from the heat: #fireday pic.twitter.com/fkEdzhrr4C
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
…however after a period of time (e.g. 30 or 60 minutes) this protection fails #Fireday pic.twitter.com/BQzp7Ngvw2
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
When designing mullions you need to design them to perform correctly under fire conditions #Fireday pic.twitter.com/BUFia1f4xN
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
@SuButcher furnace temperatures will follow the fire test curve standards illustrated on graph attached. #PromatFPH pic.twitter.com/1rgasosKRK
— PFP Surveying & Consulting Ltd (@Jmr21Challenger) November 12, 2014
The lift cores and stairs of the Mecca Royal 40m high viewing gallery are built of fire resistant glass #Fireday pic.twitter.com/cufIomcmth
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
… and the lift cores are built at a 6 degree angle just to make it more challenging! #Fireday pic.twitter.com/pKqx8eu0PB
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
David Cooper is now talking about working on the fire strategy for the Palace of Westminster #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
With a heritage building it is necessary to install unobtrusive secondary fire resistant glass #Fireday pic.twitter.com/btYPW8eqT2
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'In the best installations, its difficult to show as the fire resisting glass is almost impossible to see' #Fireday pic.twitter.com/D7e4w0U26m
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
14:45-15:15 National Competency Register for the Fire Sector
– Iain Cox, Chairman of the Fire Risk Assessor Competency Council
'We've halved the number of fires to 16,000 a year, but the losses have doubled' says Iain Cox #Fireday when it happens its catastrophic
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
The Fire Risk Assessor Competency Council is part of the Fire Sector Federation: http://t.co/02eZR7TPNN
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
https://twitter.com/iGuzziniUK/status/532552931716112384
MT @iGuzziniUK: From our POV, it's crucial as #lighting products need to be fire rated. Like #architects, we feel responsible #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Key Fire Sector Federation documents – Guide to choosing a FRA and Competency Criteria: http://t.co/3cwoxIJND1 #FireDay
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
http://firesectorfederation.co.uk/workstreams/competence-accreditation.php#documents
'Competency requirements will ultimately be market driven, but we know what doesn't work' says Iain (e.g. remote risk assessments) #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Following @RIBA_POW :Fire Planning – Fire Strategy – Fire Risk Assessment – Reassessment #Fireday #Competency pic.twitter.com/sl3VEPR6lP
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
We have a definition of Regulation 38: #Fireday #regulation38 pic.twitter.com/fBKaxYIwji
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'There can be a National Competency Register for the Fire Sector, but it won't be done unless we do it' – Iain Cox #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
15:15-15:30 Questions
Q from Martin Weller, Fire Engineer with Atkins – for Peter, is there any feedback on the things that haven't gone well with #BIM? #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter: very good question. E.g. its a challenge to make sure that all software works properly together #interoperability #BIM #fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'Demonstration projects are running on the basis that they are a learning process' – Peter Capelhorn #BIM check the @BIMgcs website #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
From the floor – 'Government won't do the national register – but we can't leave it to case law when people are dying in buildings' #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Q For Peter – do you see anything you'd like to see product manufacturers and suppliers doing more for #BIM? #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter Capelhorn – The important thing is to make sure you're co-ordinating with your part of the industry, don't rush ahead #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Peter Capelhorn mentions the #Classification project and the Digital Plan of Work coming out next spring #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'When we have those two final bits are crucial for manufacturing, then manufacturers can make great steps forward' #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Q from floor about compatibility of objects in different countries. Peter mentions #IFC and @bimSMARTfound #Fireday #BIM
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
'Effectively we have a body of concerted effort across UK that no other country can match' says Peter Capelhorn @CPA_Tweets #BIM #Fireday
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
@robinbrittain hope your going to put a fire stop to your comments, I may become intumescent if you carry on ; ) @SuButcher #Fireday
— Joe Cilia (@AisJoe) November 12, 2014
. @AISJoe @robinbrittain I think you should extinguish your crummy puns 😉 #Fireday #@@PromatUK
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
15:30-15:45 Close
Chair Wilf Butcher of @ASFPUK thanks the audience, speakers and @PromatUK for putting on the great #Fireday today
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
John Stevenson MD of @PromatUK reminds everyone that all the resources from today's #Fireday are on the website: http://t.co/p87nnDxLnt
— Architects League (@ArchitectLeague) November 12, 2014
73 People tweeted 333 times with the @PromatUK #Fireday hashtag and reached 158,434 others with their tweets
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Thanks to everyone who participated in today's #Fireday on Twitter, much appreciated, stats coming soon!
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
73 People tweeted 333 times with the @PromatUK #Fireday hashtag and reached 158,434 others with their tweets pic.twitter.com/dOrQ8VpnsG
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Here are the top 20 contributors to the @PromatUK #Fireday twitter conversation today: #Thankyou pic.twitter.com/uVAuShjlfx
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
Twitter Statistics and Rankings of @PromatUK #Fireday since:2014-11-05 http://t.co/ac2F5xjgLV via @TweetBinder
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 12, 2014
@SuButcher @PromatUK Cheers Sue > I was giving a talk on #BIM to the @FPA_tweets Fire summit #firesectorsummit > Good to know about #fireday
— Nick (@NSB3D) November 12, 2014
@promatUK #Fireday thanks for a great day, interesting and informative speakers, excellent networking, lots of helpful contacts made.
— Safe Route FM (@SafeRouteLtd) November 12, 2014
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