Collecting together responses to my blog post and some of the social media comment before and after
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Why is it necessary to have banter regarding women in the room At there kinds of events? #hammers
— Women in BIM (@WomeninBIM) November 19, 2015
So impressed by the comedian at #Hammers2015 @rhyslewis_oasys pic.twitter.com/ozoaASF33r
— Pam Bhandal (@pambhandal) November 19, 2015
#Hammers2015 @CCMagAndAwards I suggest you never book that comedian again. I stood up and left. #sexism & #diversity is not a joke.
— Casey D Rutland (@CaseyRutland) November 19, 2015
Unacceptable comedy humour at the #hammers tonight and in support of @WomeninBIM I took a stand and walked out. #diversity
— Rebecca De Cicco (@becdecicco) November 19, 2015
Sad to hear sexism was alive & well at the #hammers tonight. We need more men to join the cause, not make it worse for women in construction
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 19, 2015
We need more men to stand up and say "hang on, this isn't really acceptable" and maybe things can start to change #hammers
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 19, 2015
We need more men to stand up and say "hang on, this isn't really acceptable" and maybe things can start to change #hammers
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 19, 2015
@monajarshall just heard about this from @becdecicco very sad and totally unacceptable #diversity
— Graham H Stewart (@StewartGH1970) November 19, 2015
@becdecicco @StewartGH1970 I've worked in construction since I was 17. Almost 20 years. I thought we were further along!
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 19, 2015
@monajarshall marketing, PR and journalism among the few areas not overwhelmingly male in construction. Sexism isn't the AEC norm everywhere
— Paul Wilkinson (@EEPaul) November 19, 2015
@EEPaul If that happened now, I would totally bury him. I learnt pretty quickly how to stand up for myself in a mans world.
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 19, 2015
Fully agree but until we drop 'mans' or 'womens' talk, etc. we will simply enable the division. It's THE world https://t.co/T9crwACPwM
— Jay Zallan (@JayZallan) November 20, 2015
#hammers2015 is not a working mens club. Think women are owed an apology for sexist 'humour'. What next? Roy 'Chubbie' Brown?
— David Shepherd (@sheppied1961) November 20, 2015
Sad to hear sexism in construction rears its ugly head at #Hammers2015 – there is no place for this in our industry @WomeninBIM @BIFM_WIFM
— BIM4SME (@BIM4SME) November 20, 2015
@JayZallan Agree – though 20yrs ago it really was more of a 'mans' world. Things HAVE changed for the better. Though clearly not enough.
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 20, 2015
@monajarshall Perhaps the conversation is 20yrs too old as well
Tho undesired, I fear woman only clubs give old boys network new legitimacy
— Jay Zallan (@JayZallan) November 20, 2015
Lack of solidarity from #meninBIM after the sexist comedy at #hammers2015 very disappointing. Stand up and be counted #ukbimcrew @womeninbim
— Robert Klaschka @robertklaschka@mastodon.online (@robertklaschka) November 20, 2015
@JayZallan @monajarshall @EEPaul agree totally but not when there is comic humour about it. It's offensive and point blank wrong.
— Women in BIM (@WomeninBIM) November 20, 2015
I've calmed down a little after @CCMagAndAwards… Not the organisers fault but the 'comedian' clearly has a lot to learn about modern life.
— Casey D Rutland (@CaseyRutland) November 20, 2015
@CaseyRutland There was a comedian there last night? I must have missed that.
— Createmaster Information Management (Now Zutec) (@CreatemasterIM) November 20, 2015
Separating groups & favor w/gender bias is a point we're against @WomeninBIM, right? Ironic, no? 😉
@monajarshall @EEPaul— Jay Zallan (@JayZallan) November 20, 2015
@JayZallan @monajarshall @EEPaul absolutely agree which is why it wasn't in good taste.
— Women in BIM (@WomeninBIM) November 20, 2015
@WomeninBIM @JayZallan while being at work means being a very small minority, important to have place where you can be with your own tribe
— Ksenia Zhitomirskaya (@KZhitomi) November 20, 2015
@KZhitomi @WomeninBIM Women are 50% of humanity… we ALL are a minority somewhere! Tear down borders, nurture commonalities
— Jay Zallan (@JayZallan) November 20, 2015
@JayZallan you have these convos on Twitter often – try to listen. If all women say they need a safe place to be with other women it's true
— Ksenia Zhitomirskaya (@KZhitomi) November 20, 2015
@CaseyRutland @becdecicco Believe me the team here feels absolutely awful about this – sincere apologies again
— CCMagAndAwards (@CCMagAndAwards) November 20, 2015
@CCMagAndAwards @CaseyRutland it's a bigger issue in industry unfortunately but thanks for the apology. R
— Rebecca De Cicco (@becdecicco) November 20, 2015
New Blog Post: Sexism in Construction Awards – Not Just a Joke https://t.co/vFjFAFhfv2 pic.twitter.com/zUJzHpR1Vx
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher I was at the #ProDriver awards last night – @AirportLynx won two – they need an award for women in Chauffeuring next year!
— Liz Weston (@TheLizWeston) November 20, 2015
@TheLizWeston @AirportLynx no I don't agree – they need women to win the 'normal' awards #equality
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/AZAhsU5H9Z
— Pam Bhandal (@pambhandal) November 20, 2015
Well done all for standing up! Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/POp148Cwd7 @WomeninBIM
— Cristina Savian MSc, MBA, MIET (@cristina_savian) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher I can see that, but they don't seem to have a voice or presence and I feel it should be celebrated that women are making inroads.
— Liz Weston (@TheLizWeston) November 20, 2015
No women consulted by @ArchitectsJrnal round table – promotes image of men only influencers pic.twitter.com/nPHaXmXFSV
— Lucy Mori (@4architects) November 20, 2015
@TheLizWeston difficult isn't it. Last year there wasn't a female in the shortlist for Construction Manager of the Year (none nominated!)
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@TheLizWeston this year two finalists. Its a very lonely road we travel but we can get together! @becdecicco
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/Kbci4YKdz9 great article @SuButcher #equality @WomeninBIM
— Asite (@ASITE) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/56JONTS/status/667692441387081728
.@ASITE @SuButcher @WomeninBIM a great article, it's sad when this great industry of ours lets itself down. Thanks for raising the issue.
— Katy Harris (@KatyHarris) November 20, 2015
This "Sexism in Construction Awards – Not Just a Joke https://t.co/tdk2Y7QtnA"
— Lee Mullin (@leeroyb) November 20, 2015
A must read blog & we ALL have to sort this out #diversity https://t.co/bkuFk9qwFE
— Duncan Reed (@djhreed67) November 20, 2015
.@SuButcher I'm not surprised. Misogyny is alive and kicking in the industry and we just have to kick it back. #diversity #notjustforboys
— Leonie Thomas (@_leoniethomas) November 20, 2015
.@SuButcher we will only have true equality when incompetent women are also in top positions. I've worked for plenty of clueless men.
— Leonie Thomas (@_leoniethomas) November 20, 2015
@LeonieThomas18 @SuButcher Doesn't sound like equality. Sounds more like lack of quality.
— Malcolm Levene (@MalcolmLevene) November 20, 2015
.@MalcolmLevene @SuButcher Well, there are plenty of men who lack quality (imo) in top positions…
— Leonie Thomas (@_leoniethomas) November 20, 2015
.@MalcolmLevene @SuButcher …and there are plenty of talented women trapped in more junior roles.
— Leonie Thomas (@_leoniethomas) November 20, 2015
.@MalcolmLevene @SuButcher …therefore, once the incompetent women also get senior gigs, that will be equality.
— Leonie Thomas (@_leoniethomas) November 20, 2015
@LeonieThomas18 Agree on both counts. BTW, I've worked with many male & female execs who are far from deserving of the salary or position.
— Malcolm Levene (@MalcolmLevene) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher has written one of this year's most important articles on sexism in Construction https://t.co/ddJUhz4NfO
— David Shepherd (@sheppied1961) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher Great article 🙂 If you wouldn't make the joke about a race, don't make it about women. Same principles apply to sexism as racism
— Jenny Hearn (@lagringaeterna) November 20, 2015
Well done all those who took a stand. Bigotry is unacceptable in any circumstances #BoycottTheHammers https://t.co/seBp6y2QyU
— Nigel Davies (@NigelPDavies) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/x61xMUYnHt
— Babs Saul (@babssaul) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not Just a Joke https://t.co/q5Od36vttH pic.twitter.com/ptX7IZNQIm New Blog Post by @SuButcher
— Martin Brown (@fairsnape) November 20, 2015
@lagringaeterna very good point 🙂 Have you seen that video about consent being like if you want a cup of tea?
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
. @NigelPDavies no let's not #boycottthehammers lets get more women there!
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/1ManBandAccts/status/667706286398701568
@SuButcher No to sexist comedians at industry events. I hope at least some men booed him.
— Gordon Rae (@socialtechno) November 20, 2015
Hmm… The Hammers… looking at this in more detail, the vast majority of winners are sponsors. Reasonable statistics? #boycottTheHammers
— Nigel Davies (@NigelPDavies) November 20, 2015
@NigelPDavies I wonder how much sponsorship is. Would be nice to win next year!
— Daniel Heselwood (@Dheselwood) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/9MGC0WAOrc #UKBIMCrew #IrishBIMCrew @WomeninBIM
— Louise Kelly (@weezybop) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher Very interesting. As a female architect, I hve found myself in similar situations & always pleased when male colleagues protest
— Sunder Architects (@Sunder_Arch) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @NigelPDavies I'm w/ Nigel here. (but I question awards in general)
— Kieren Porter (@snowyweston) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher Yeah I did, fantastic one that! I've been showing it to everyone. This is another great tool: https://t.co/cNTXiYhoLK
— Jenny Hearn (@lagringaeterna) November 20, 2015
https://t.co/cNTXiYhoLK
@SuButcher The more men that stand up to sexism, the less women professionals can be accused of being "po-faced" or "unhumourous"
— Sunder Architects (@Sunder_Arch) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @CaseyRutland @bondbryanBIM @becdecicco @socialtechno not that I recall groans & shaking of heads – audience weren't engaged
— Pam Bhandal (@pambhandal) November 20, 2015
*Hat tip* to those who walked out and to women that try a trade in #construction https://t.co/GnFxLJD3Pb
— David Cant ~👷🏻♂️ (@davidgcant) November 20, 2015
Powerful blog. I applaud those who made a stand @becdecicco @CaseyRutland and those that spoke out! https://t.co/q9pzDHKuve
— Caroline Brock (@carolinebrock) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher Ditto on the follow. Fantastic blog piece – as someone who worked in the industry for a long time I was just appalled!
— Caroline Brock (@carolinebrock) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher some great resources from @McKinsey on this topic https://t.co/giBJRMb96u
— Andy Ainsworth (@Ecus_andya) November 20, 2015
https://t.co/giBJRMb96u
Well this is pretty depressing to read, shameful and pathetic attitude to the industry from the award organisers https://t.co/qr8SrDUndN
— Tim Miller (@timmiIIer) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher need to make sure that digital (r)evolution doesn't actually make it worse. perennial issue in tech: https://t.co/0g5HaYm1ix
— Richard (@a6ruled) November 20, 2015
Very disappointed to read this–you can do better UK! #WomeninBIM https://t.co/ZC43RZf4F5
— Phil Bernstein (@PBernstein_Arch) November 20, 2015
https://drvza2n4g1.wpdns.site/events/sexism-in-construction-awards-not-just-a-joke/
good post Su. Pretty depressing to see this anywhere in the industry, let alone at an awards bash https://t.co/L95FA0hYDR
— Chris Hallam (@ChrisHallamLaw) November 20, 2015
https://t.co/cNTXiYhoLK
#Sexism in #Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/r31SnXqdZb via @subutcher
— Doug Shaw . Artist. Illustrator. Consultant. (@DougShawArt) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/jill_guthrie1/status/667735493191315457
Thank you for drawing my attention to Su's post – together we can change our industry / society. https://t.co/CoE2D7KNsU
— Lucy Mori (@4architects) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/Dube45Thomas/status/667738657688825856
@4architects absolutely! @ArchitectsJrnal @SuButcher @ICE_engineers are doing some great stuff with female #singingengineers
— David Cant ~👷🏻♂️ (@davidgcant) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/ECApaulreeve/status/667739533962780672
@SuButcher @NigelPDavies You might be interested in an exchange I had 8 years ago – https://t.co/aYq4ZNOB9W (see comments)
— Paul Wilkinson (@EEPaul) November 20, 2015
Loads of comments on social about my post – have added them to the comments #equality https://t.co/vFjFAFhfv2
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Proportion of #ukconstruction who are women – Infographic by @ConstructingEq #equality https://t.co/Zd2Zb1Tisn pic.twitter.com/4lWnz7vWm7
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Great article! Just a shame that we have to deal with such issues in 21st Century and in today's industry! https://t.co/4i89sAKBbC
— BIMnet (@BIMnetwork) November 20, 2015
Saw similar behaviour last year at an event and thought it one off. Sadly it isn't. Why does this still happen? https://t.co/NUDPUiNMzt
— James Daniel FCIAT FCIHT (@jpricedaniel) November 20, 2015
@BradleyFehr thank you for sharing, appreciated
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@jpricedaniel @SuButcher it can't happen anymore which is why we've voiced the issue!
— Rebecca De Cicco (@becdecicco) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher I was asked to be one of the 'totty' in a blind date rip-off at a construction event on my year out in arch. Not enough change
— Vanessa Bizzell (@vanessabizzell) November 20, 2015
. @vanessabizzell sounds familiar. At my first job it was de-rigueur for the women in the practice to get off with the directors
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
. @vanessabizzell sounds familiar. At my first job it was de-rigueur for the women in the practice to get off with the directors
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/lisa_asite/status/667762974585659393
@SuButcher wow, that Bentley video is beyond awful. I couldn't get through to the end for cringing.
— Liz Schofield (@lizschofieldmay) November 20, 2015
@lizschofieldmay gross isn't it. We were wondering a) who is the creepy voice b) who told them to dance… and why…?
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/tommdempsey/status/667766365839822848
@SuButcher Just read your article about last night.Sounds toe curling.We just need to stop going to"Baby Boom"events.They've had their day
— Rob Charlton (@spacegroupRob) November 20, 2015
@lizschofieldmay Isn't it the worst? A real "What were they thinking" moment. @SuButcher
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 20, 2015
yes it was awful. But I love a good night out – can't we just stop the sexism? https://t.co/uDhEBz7Zwo
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@tommdempsey @Synchro_Ltd exactly
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@lizschofieldmay @SuButcher woow. Re cmya. Interesting as in 2014 there were no female entries at all @CIOBBridget made a statement I think
— Stuart Wilks (@stuartwilks) November 20, 2015
@stuartwilks @lizschofieldmay @CIOBBridget yes I think that was last year – there were two female finalists this year and one got a medal.
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Some more great comments on the post here, do add yours if you like https://t.co/vFjFAFhfv2
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@stuartwilks @spacegroupRob yes funny that. Sexism isn't just a problem for men @WomeninBIM
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
SEXISM IS NOT A JOKE! It's 2015 and time for this behaviour to stop: https://t.co/A5Xoj9F9k9 Great post by @SuButcher #womeninconstruction
— Professor Sue Black OBE Keynote Speaker 🇺🇦 (@Dr_Black) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher It will take 10-15 years for this to change.The impact is we struggle to get the best people into our industry. We wonder why.
— Rob Charlton (@spacegroupRob) November 20, 2015
@Dr_Black @SuButcher my grandad taught me to tile and replace the glass panels in upvc Windows.
— Hannah J (@HannahJPlans) November 20, 2015
@spacegroupRob @SuButcher Perhaps we need to rethink events?
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 20, 2015
@Dr_Black @SuButcher another family member in the past has refused to let me move gravel because "you're a girl"
— Hannah J (@HannahJPlans) November 20, 2015
@Dr_Black thank you Sue! Trying to keep up with all the feedback
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@HannahJBlogs @Dr_Black bloody useful skills both 🙂
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
CNN punished its own journalist for fulfilling a core duty of journalism https://t.co/Enki5Hgp86
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) November 20, 2015
@HannahJBlogs @Dr_Black risk assessments should be based on ability not gender! Cc @ConstructingEq
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@subutcher @constructingeq More worryingly is the 7% of ethnic minority. No wonder I feel like am constantly hitting a brick wall #equality
— Ming Cheng RIBA RTPI (@ArchitectMing) November 20, 2015
@architectming @ConstructingEq yes in the #kpi2015 results BAME numbers were near zero 🙁
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Do we agree? Has #ukconstruction moved on from #sexism? https://t.co/E0isTwfvdR
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Great blog @SuButcher The lack of diversity is stifling innovation https://t.co/OZaORC2zDD
— Claire Penny (@Claire_PennyTay) November 20, 2015
I think we've all been in similar situations, cringeing. Well said… https://t.co/KNWeV5xIT8
— Roland Karthaus (@RolandKarthaus) November 20, 2015
Want to practice #equality in recruitment? You need this https://t.co/khQXKh1znR
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@paul_swaddle @WomeninBIM @becdecicco @TheNBS Thank you Paul. We must start standing up #juststandup
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Thanks @eepaul for adding value #equality #juststandup https://t.co/TeiVolh3y3
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@ConstructingEq I think it might be more worrying for @architectming 😉
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@ConstructingEq @architectming yes a but like unemployment statistics lol!
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @ConstructingEq @architectming if UK working population 10% BAME yet only 7% in construction it would worry me (esp if I was BAME)
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @EEPaul we have got caught out, UK building industry must do better!
RIBA 2014 rpt includes actions: https://t.co/Z8eiyy4znx
— Miles Walker 💚🌳💚 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 (@4BIM) November 20, 2015
@4BIM @EEPaul @riba stats are telling aren't they? @WomeninBIM
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
Insightful blog by @SuButcher Clearly many present uncomfortable. A wake up call? @WES1919 @thewisecampaign https://t.co/wlhXY1y8aF
— Kate Bellingham (@KateBellingham) November 20, 2015
4 events in a week @thewisecampaign @TheIET @bsmeinfo and @IStructE. Felt v at home at all, not like https://t.co/V8XkHQU0mv. @SuButcher
— Kate Bellingham (@KateBellingham) November 20, 2015
@KateBellingham thanks D – took a lot of heartwrenching and support to write it, glad I did
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
. @WMID4HS2 @ConstructingEq @architectming everyone loses when people are not promoted on merit.
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher it's an interesting area, I hope you'll enjoy finding out more about it. Can you DM me an email?
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@ConstructingEq @architectming @SuButcher That surely is discrimination with a big D – bit like newspeak in 1984
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @SuButcher @architectming that's why we have research. To distinguish the shadows from the light
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@ConstructingEq @architectming @SuButcher Now there is a surprise. Men in lose lose situation women (note the first syllable) in win win.
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 21, 2015
@ConstructingEq @architectming @SuButcher send details – I will try to find time to read and understand.
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 21, 2015
@ConstructingEq @SuButcher @architectming Sometimes we are chasing shadows that do not exist in reality
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher agree but it can be hard to know it's happening
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher I'm not sure your understanding the expression glass ceiling. It's about position not %of demographic
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher that's good. But the reasons behind the pay gap are much more complex, lots of unconscious bias again
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher no, in female dominated workplaces men are more likely to be promoted. It's called the glass elevator
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @architectming @SuButcher not just stats, also inductive research, &much more. The research is there, Q is do you want to read it?
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@WMID4HS2 @SuButcher @architectming t best should be. That's the point. But unconscious bias is a proven factor that means they often arnt
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 21, 2015
@ConstructingEq @architectming @SuButcher. How do you know there is glass ceiling – just because stats allow you to claim there is.
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 20, 2015
Well Done Sue – really inspiring especially as I found myself as the only woman in a meeting of 16 people last week! https://t.co/Uzz5Lkb1yO
— Deborah Saunt (@DeborahSaunt) November 20, 2015
@architectming @SuButcher @ConstructingEq Never noticed it why I took selection Interviews- best applicant won
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 20, 2015
A shame she had to write it, but @SuButcher writes exactly why we have to change perception of #engineering https://t.co/ti5HhT31Ts
— PJefferis (@PJJefferis) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @ConstructingEq @architectming WHY Surely the BEST should be selected
— NO STOPPING HS2Y. (@WMID4HS2) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher Sounds like similar experience I had at IET dinner a year or so. Appallinglying sexist, v few women in audience and no dissent
— 🦖Obsolesence (@Obsolesence) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @WMID4HS2 @ConstructingEq @architectming but those stats are still better than the 47%/11% women stats.
— Sharon Slinger (@SlingerSharon) November 20, 2015
4 events in a week @thewisecampaign @TheIET @bsmeinfo and @IStructE. Felt v at home at all, not like https://t.co/V8XkHQU0mv. @SuButcher
— Kate Bellingham (@KateBellingham) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher…. made me so cross I had to move away from reality for a bit. FFFS. #construction
— J T Beckett CEng MCIBSE 💙 💚 #Antifa #BLM (@carbonsaveruk) November 20, 2015
.@SuButcher thank you for blog. Explains clearly why it's not 'just banter'. Many areas beyond construction yet to understand this as well.
— Kate Bellingham (@KateBellingham) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @WMID4HS2 @architectming the biggest worry for me is the BME women. A minority in a minority; my hats off esp to them (&lgbt BME)
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 20, 2015
@architectming @SuButcher @WMID4HS2 defo, worse is when the odd few that get to the top are used as evidence of no glass ceiling. Sigh.
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @WMID4HS2 @architectming don't get me wrong BME stats worry me a lot, gender worries me a little more. Was interested in dif view
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 20, 2015
Insightful blog by @SuButcher Clearly many present uncomfortable. A wake up call? @WES1919 @thewisecampaign https://t.co/wlhXY1y8aF
— Kate Bellingham (@KateBellingham) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @EEPaul we have got caught out, UK building industry must do better!
RIBA 2014 rpt includes actions: https://t.co/Z8eiyy4znx
— Miles Walker 💚🌳💚 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 (@4BIM) November 20, 2015
@subutcher @wmid4hs2 @constructingeq Not to mention when you try to break the glass ceiling.
— Ming Cheng RIBA RTPI (@ArchitectMing) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/MDMuk/status/667809292079132672
@SuButcher it's the last taboo….
— Roland Karthaus (@RolandKarthaus) November 20, 2015
I believe much of #UKConstruction has moved on @SuButcher re: #sexism, still lots to do for #diversity though cont https://t.co/OsAoEMV9D9
— Simon Owen (@CalibreSimon) November 20, 2015
2/2 As a male I could be wrong person to comment tho' @SuButcher. I certainly won't accept #sexism anywhere… https://t.co/OsAoEMV9D9
— Simon Owen (@CalibreSimon) November 20, 2015
Hi @KateBellingham https://t.co/gCi9ky2zw7 thank goodness the @IStructE awards set a different tone – have you experienced this?
— Michael Aubrey Partnership Ltd (@michaelaubreylt) November 20, 2015
Exceptional. #meninBIM. I hearby stand up. I hearby am counted. @WomeninBIM @becdecicco @TheNBS https://t.co/fXNXp61JgE
— Paul S (@paul_swaddle) November 20, 2015
@paul_swaddle @WomeninBIM @becdecicco @TheNBS Thank you Paul. We must start standing up #juststandup
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/MDMuk/status/667786952058515456
+1 @SlingerSharon but @SuButcher's piece & others comments show #construction has moved on. Sadly "comedy" hasn't 🙁 https://t.co/Wtkc7eGCx5
— Simon Owen (@CalibreSimon) November 20, 2015
Glad it wasn't just me @lizschofieldmay! @SuButcher https://t.co/zrVUDrl4cZ
— Simon Owen (@CalibreSimon) November 20, 2015
@subutcher @constructingeq More worryingly is the 7% of ethnic minority. No wonder I feel like am constantly hitting a brick wall #equality
— Ming Cheng RIBA RTPI (@ArchitectMing) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/elliothartley/status/667780891024977920
this blatant @EverydaySexism is still going on at industry events. +ves being the men speaking out. @ConstructingEq https://t.co/0Az41Im8a3
— Sharon Slinger (@SlingerSharon) November 20, 2015
@monajarshall @SuButcher @spacegroupRob agree. I've been saying that for the last few years…
— Women in BIM (@WomeninBIM) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/t9uIFaOfYv / well said @SuButcher
— Antony Slumbers (@antonyslumbers) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @Dr_Black I haven't used them since but I grew up watching my Grandad work so trying those things is second nature.
— Hannah J (@HannahJPlans) November 20, 2015
@Dr_Black @SuButcher another family member in the past has refused to let me move gravel because "you're a girl"
— Hannah J (@HannahJPlans) November 20, 2015
@spacegroupRob @SuButcher Perhaps we need to rethink events?
— Joanna ❤️ (@peachout23) November 20, 2015
@Dr_Black @SuButcher my grandad taught me to tile and replace the glass panels in upvc Windows.
— Hannah J (@HannahJPlans) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher It will take 10-15 years for this to change.The impact is we struggle to get the best people into our industry. We wonder why.
— Rob Charlton (@spacegroupRob) November 20, 2015
SEXISM IS NOT A JOKE! It's 2015 and time for this behaviour to stop: https://t.co/A5Xoj9F9k9 Great post by @SuButcher #womeninconstruction
— Professor Sue Black OBE Keynote Speaker 🇺🇦 (@Dr_Black) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/richardlaing123/status/667767901789794304
@SuButcher funny thing is a lot of these events are actually organised by women. Cmya is no exception. @spacegrouprob
— Stuart Wilks (@stuartwilks) November 20, 2015
@lizschofieldmay @SuButcher woow. Re cmya. Interesting as in 2014 there were no female entries at all @CIOBBridget made a statement I think
— Stuart Wilks (@stuartwilks) November 20, 2015
@SuButcher @NigelPDavies You might be interested in an exchange I had 8 years ago – https://t.co/aYq4ZNOB9W (see comments)
— Paul Wilkinson (@EEPaul) November 20, 2015
#Sexism in #Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/r31SnXqdZb via @subutcher
— Doug Shaw . Artist. Illustrator. Consultant. (@DougShawArt) November 20, 2015
good post Su. Pretty depressing to see this anywhere in the industry, let alone at an awards bash https://t.co/L95FA0hYDR
— Chris Hallam (@ChrisHallamLaw) November 20, 2015
Sexism has no place in #construction when granting or celebrating awards #loveconstruction https://t.co/FN2pxhHOCu
— Sarah Fox (@500wordlawyer) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/Dube45Thomas/status/667738657688825856
UK construction industry: surely we're better than this! https://t.co/qeLnKdDDQF
— Tom Oulton (@itsBIMupNorth) November 20, 2015
Top story: Sexism in Construction Awards – Not Just a Joke https://t.co/FKJ6Noxzwa, see more https://t.co/Lvtq6Bj415
— Robin Mapleston (@EPCforProperty) November 20, 2015
SEXISM IS NOT A JOKE! It's 2015 and time for this behaviour to stop: https://t.co/A5Xoj9F9k9 Great post by @SuButcher #womeninconstruction
— Professor Sue Black OBE Keynote Speaker 🇺🇦 (@Dr_Black) November 20, 2015
RT @SuButcher: Some more great comments on the post here, do add yours if you like https://t.co/wGqGRDFTCD ^s
— steven healey (@stevenhealey) November 20, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/t9uIFaOfYv / well said @SuButcher
— Antony Slumbers (@antonyslumbers) November 20, 2015
"He singled out an all-female table and told them ‘oh you must be the feminists then"What!? @EquityxDesign @AWAplusD https://t.co/dgMloXbFs6
— Meghana Joshi, AIA, NOMA (@MeghanaIRA) November 20, 2015
Im extremely disappointed this still goes on in our industry. More disappointed someone thought it was FUNNY. https://t.co/JPpULfDXX9
— Aaron Maller (twiceroadsfool) (@Twiceroadsfool) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/elliothartley/status/667780891024977920
https://twitter.com/ConstructionIRR/status/667786340960878593
Sexism in the construction industry – great blog from @SuButcher but a shame it is needing to be written – https://t.co/PZIWLLOp5Y
— Ruth Cheesley (she/her) (@RCheesley) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/DiversityBC/status/667811341478965248
Sobering – decline in womens participation in const. industry…Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/HRKXQBqtvS
— Patrick O'Carrigan (@POCarch) November 20, 2015
https://twitter.com/2PMArchitects/status/667993190734147584
There was @SuButcher @2PMArchitects and @CCMagAndAwards were very swift in doing so. @becdecicco @GrahamSievers
— Casey D Rutland (@CaseyRutland) November 21, 2015
@2PMArchitects @CCMagAndAwards they apologised to @CaseyRutland and @becdecicco yesterday https://t.co/QVqRgfFWPo
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
https://twitter.com/2PMArchitects/status/668003285333331968
@2PMArchitects I think @CCMagAndAwards would rather stress the positive 🙂 @CaseyRutland @becdecicco @GrahamSievers
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
https://twitter.com/2PMArchitects/status/668012664212340736
@2PMArchitects yes I agree. I don't think people know how to deal with crises on social media generally (I've blogged about it 😉
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
https://twitter.com/bcualisterscott/status/668003641882763264
https://twitter.com/2PMArchitects/status/668004094636859392
Excellent article: Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke https://t.co/FOA0cabOa1
— Melys Pritchett (@MelysEP) November 21, 2015
@lizmale they apologised to Casey and Rebecca the following morning. I should put a comment on my post
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
I can see I'm not going to get my shopping done
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
https://t.co/cpJEXcDQKL
Agreed. + diversity/equality isn't for the sake of it, we all benefit. Form, storm, norm, perform #diversityperforms https://t.co/cpJEXcDQKL
— NoFixedAdobe (@GrahamSievers) November 21, 2015
.@GrahamSievers @becdecicco @SuButcher @2PMArchitects @CCMagAndAwards Meanwhile in Berlin… We're all just people. pic.twitter.com/lddN0Rjy5g
— Casey D Rutland (@CaseyRutland) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher @JaneDuncanPRIBA in a perverse way this awful event may help https://t.co/9jDnjwQ8kn
— Ruth Reed (@ruthreed01) November 21, 2015
Yes I hope it will, if people feel they can #juststandup and leave https://t.co/j11TFBAARb
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
https://twitter.com/renniechadwick/status/668025842539319296
possibly though only 2% of #ukconstruction trades are women https://t.co/R3MiFvOS36
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
Really depressing to read such tales from @SuButcher in 2015. Has the industry really failed to progress? https://t.co/vSl0YS4Z53
— Bowdon Consulting (@bowdonconsult) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher The bentley vidoe leaves me without words…
— Patrick A. Goff (@patricktheart) November 21, 2015
@patricktheart shocking isn't it. O wonder who the dirty old man on the voiceover is
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher Wonder why the women engineers cooperated and cavorted like that? Whole thing is smutty
— Patrick A. Goff (@patricktheart) November 21, 2015
Possible they didn't know, or went with the crowd. Some won't think it's a problem either (doesn't mean it isn't) https://t.co/o6NX8wx1pD
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
Please read this article. I'd thought the construction industry had moved on since the 1980s, but maybe not 🙁 https://t.co/2BYykqrhHi
— Melanie Thompson (@Get_Sust) November 21, 2015
Great post that's worth a read – the problem is not just about women in construction but the image of construction. https://t.co/A0aF4aAy1o
— Nick Deeming (@nicholasdeeming) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher Good article seems to me we have learnt nothing. It actually makes me sick, there are no excuses for this in the 21st century.
— David Light (@davewlight) November 21, 2015
@davewlight thanks Dave. We (not just me) weren't sure whether we shd write it. Just goes to show how much people are surpressing cc @eepaul
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher @EEPaul well not writing about it, is like sweepin it underthecarpet & turning a blind eye, so in my world it was a great call!
— David Light (@davewlight) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher @EEPaul @WomeninBIM ignoring shouldn't b an option, that's like saying its expectable to have the pirelli calendar in the office
— David Light (@davewlight) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher Loved the post – a female in construction. Know the humour been there at my company's AGM – procurement means…nothing changes!
— Virtu@dmin🎤+🎧+💻=📑 (@VirtuadminUK) November 21, 2015
@cyberspaceayuda perhaps we can change things now @ThePhilpster @WomeninBIM @WomenInArch
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 21, 2015
@SuButcher @ThePhilpster @WomeninBIM @WomenInArch Only by ignoring it! Men won't change, we won't change, if we love construction we do!
— Virtu@dmin🎤+🎧+💻=📑 (@VirtuadminUK) November 21, 2015
An important blog post from @SuButcher. Our industry simply must do better. https://t.co/23mdPERbIo
— Anna Kerrane (@abitabim) November 21, 2015
Interesting post on #sexism and #STEM; the issue is beyond #construction… HT @BarbaraGoffioul cc @SuButcher https://t.co/GbycQCypM6
— Simon Owen (@CalibreSimon) November 22, 2015
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationopinion/12007112/The-Naked-Don-The-truth-about-women-inscience.html
@SuButcher Are we wasting our time encouraging girls to consider a career in construction if this is what they will be met with?
— Lynne Hamilton 🌈🦄 (@LynneLynne185) November 22, 2015
Well it does beg the question doesn't it. @ClassofYourOwn made a similar point on the post https://t.co/EzkmrJWHb6
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn @LynneLynne185 this is true, but a higher % of the industry being female better it will be. Chicken & egg issue.
— Alexandra Grounds (@AlexCGrounds) November 22, 2015
@AlexCGrounds @SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn Okay, so what do we do to make it better? We can't let the numbers decline any further…
— Lynne Hamilton 🌈🦄 (@LynneLynne185) November 22, 2015
@AlexCGrounds @SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn Okay, so what do we do to make it better? We can't let the numbers decline any further…
— Lynne Hamilton 🌈🦄 (@LynneLynne185) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher an https://t.co/QSkL9zDYq5 a campaign for diversity in construction. Contact UBM,CN etc & ask them to promote events this way
— Rob Charlton (@spacegroupRob) November 22, 2015
@spacegroupRob yes. @ConstructingEq has been down this road I believe but we do need to find a way to make it happen -same with speakers etc
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 22, 2015
@spacegroupRob @SuButcher we are currently overrun with events/websites/one off projects. What we need is long term sustainable action
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher @spacegroupRob we need to move away from t CSR view of equality, it's making things worse. Our research is on how to move forward
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 22, 2015
@LynneLynne185 @SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn this is the part which is difficult as its also a reflection on society to my way of thinking
— Alexandra Grounds (@AlexCGrounds) November 22, 2015
@AlexCGrounds @SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn And of course it's not just sexism. Do we, the industry, really believe in diversity and equality?
— Lynne Hamilton 🌈🦄 (@LynneLynne185) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher @LynneLynne185 not only is construction industry male centric, its conservative, customer ambivalent & nds transformation. 1/2
— Eddie Murphy (@edwrdmrphy8) November 22, 2015
2/2 @SuButcher @LynneLynne185 ironic therefore that @ClassofYourOwn @DECinSchools has power to bring forward real change within education.
— Eddie Murphy (@edwrdmrphy8) November 22, 2015
@edwrdmrphy8 @LynneLynne185 and brilliant job they are doing but could be wasted if we don't change industry @ClassofYourOwn @DECinSchools
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 22, 2015
@LynneLynne185 @SuButcher @ClassofYourOwn I struggle to see it & conversations with other non-white and/or male it is always the same issues
— Alexandra Grounds (@AlexCGrounds) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher @LynneLynne185 @ClassofYourOwn @DECinSchools change will most likely 2 be bottom up thru edu curriculum as the change engine.
— Eddie Murphy (@edwrdmrphy8) November 22, 2015
@edwrdmrphy8 @SuButcher @LynneLynne185 @DECinSchools Been away cooking the dinner #irony! We have to BELIEVE it will change. And I really do
— Alison Watson MBE (@ClassofYourOwn) November 22, 2015
.@ClassofYourOwn @edwrdmrphy8 @SuButcher @LynneLynne185 Hope new skills + new entrants = new attitudes/behaviours = better ind reputation
— Paul Wilkinson (@EEPaul) November 22, 2015
@EEPaul @ClassofYourOwn @SuButcher @LynneLynne185 yes. Innovative @DECinSchools pupils already ripping up rule books to create new horizons
— Eddie Murphy (@edwrdmrphy8) November 22, 2015
@ClassofYourOwn in case of @roxanne_walters she's been scuppered by home office botched overseas student rules @LynneLynne185 @AlexCGrounds
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 22, 2015
@AlexCGrounds @roxanne_walters @LynneLynne185 @ClassofYourOwn @ConstructingEq is the expert in this area
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher @AlexCGrounds @roxanne_walters @LynneLynne185 @ConstructingEq Worst thing in the world "how many girls study DEC?" #CSRboxticking
— Alison Watson MBE (@ClassofYourOwn) November 22, 2015
@SuButcher Much prefer "How can we help @educationgovuk @bisgovuk understand the value of #AEC?" Schools will see #DEC is a subject for ALL.
— Alison Watson MBE (@ClassofYourOwn) November 22, 2015
https://twitter.com/kathf48/status/668540610232631296
@donnaanthes I think we will be looking at how to provide organisers with ideas for alternatives next
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 23, 2015
Some of the comments on LinkedIn https://t.co/HpetkHWvWB
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 23, 2015
And some more LinkedIn comments https://t.co/61t5xmzzpa
— Su Butcher 💚 (@SuButcher) November 23, 2015
If you are a LinkedIn user you can see the live thread and participate on LinkedIn here:
https://www.linkedin.com/nhome/updates?activity=6073458688742481921&goback=&trk=hb_ntf_COMMENTED_ON_UPDATE_YOU_CREATED
@ClassofYourOwn @SuButcher @AlexCGrounds @roxanne_walters @LynneLynne185 capability oft questioned reg women. Work must not reinforce this
— Centre of Behavioural Equality (@CentreofBE) November 23, 2015
Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a joke -> great post from @subutcher https://t.co/X5MalsJEJA
— CE Yorkshire&Humber (@CExcellenceYH) November 23, 2015
@SuButcher Are we wasting our time encouraging girls to consider a career in construction if this is what they will be met with?
— Lynne Hamilton 🌈🦄 (@LynneLynne185) November 22, 2015
https://twitter.com/CChrissi/status/668733357723918336
https://twitter.com/RosalieHarding/status/668741646733938688
Sounds a heck of a lot like #iwa2015jordan opening ceremony! Too many industries treat women as a joke. cc: @bakirp https://t.co/IecnV7y3BK
— Abby Crisostomo (M – @PlanAbby@urbanists.social) (@PlanAbby) November 23, 2015
@SuButcher yet more evidence, if it were needed….which it isn't https://t.co/ZOgwVmj270
— Simon Blackham (@Simonblackham) November 23, 2015
https://t.co/ZOgwVmj270
@SuButcher its not just construction…more men with the name John leading #FTSE100 companies than women in the same position
— WiBE (@wibenorfolk) November 23, 2015
https://t.co/Jq8XcaBCII
https://twitter.com/1ManBandAccts/status/668770505193861120
"Irish" jokes are Racist & therefore unacceptable. This "Comedian" does not seem to be very funny! https://t.co/hQXffVcGTt
— Raymond K. Quirke (@QuirkeArchTect) November 23, 2015
Obvs you'll be impeccable @fredmacaulay, but some suggested reading ahead of @BCSCevents #GoldAwards from @SuButcherhttps://t.co/MT0dBRswjs
— Tania Love RIBA FRSA FIPM (@TaniaLove_FBs) November 23, 2015
https://twitter.com/BIMcrunch/status/668806436454027264
https://t.co/bX5U966EY6
Sad to see our industry still do things like this. Sexism in Construction Awards – Not just a Joke @SuButcher https://t.co/3wHrwzq2IJ
— COMIT Projects Ltd (@COMobileIT) November 23, 2015
@SuButcher @JaneDuncanPRIBA how we going to retain women in arch if ind like this? Congrats to those who walked out https://t.co/sVSUPTgjlj
— Nicky Watson RIBA (she/her) (@nickywatsoncg) November 23, 2015
BIM community reacts to sexist attitudes at #TheHammers2015 Construction Computing Awards – https://t.co/Jq8XcaBCII pic.twitter.com/3fLDov0roL
— BIMplus (@BIM_PLUS) November 23, 2015
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